Well, you obviously don't know anything about China, you see one thing and then generalise it as if it's the norm and your examples simply don't make sense, simplified chinese is like riting lke diz?
Plus change your name to John or some other name. Unless you want what you wrote to refer to you too; "Chinese people".

In Liao's defence GB he doesn't have to change his name to John, to prove that he's non-Chinese or Canadian or whatever bigoted, idea you have about being "Chinese."

While most of the top ten list can be a generalization, it's not any difference than Jan Wong's top ten list which SURPRISE takes "one thing" and then generalizes.... I'll be posting my own little critique of it on my own blog.

Ron "I'm Chinese-Indonesian-Canadian if you're wondering" Nurwisah

I have to agree with the first 7 of the authors bad points of china, thos are quite bad and during my recent trip in to china some have gotten quite worse over the years, and some better. cleanliness is quite a problem in most areas i agree unless u can afford the more expensive restaurants in china.

As for the last three notes of bad things in china, i must say that those are very biased opinions, not facts. please get that straight. they just make u sound like a narrow minded git.

if u dont like chinese food, dont go there in the first place, you obviously love european architecture more and what dirty old men do with hot young things is thier business, if u want a worse country with dirty old( i mean really old) men with really young girls go to japan. china isnt so bad.

but here are some other bad things about china which i learned on my trip.

during my trip to hang zhou ( satalite city of shanghai). my friend and i dined in a nice 4 star restaurant. good service, very clean. cept the washroom had holes in the ground.(bewarey you adventurous travellers: learn to use the old hole in the ground).

Well, the whole list is more or less biased. It's all in fun. I mean, I know there are people who aren't bothered by the simplified writing, for example.

I want to clarify two points, however. When I say architecture in China is horrible, I meant modern architecture. The old stuff are great, somewhere along the way the Chinese forgot how to design. Most likely it's the clients aren't sophisticated enough to demand a well-designed building. I know there are a bunch of great Chinese architects out there.

Also, Chinese food is a wonderful cuisine. The mainland Chinese people, ironically, don't know how to make it properly most of the time. Sure you can get a well cooked meal here and there, but it's few and far in between.

i have to agree completely with u, china is a sad place, and its sad for me to claim that i have chinese ancestry yet feel ashamed of the current chinese population.

did i ever mention the rich are getting filthy rich, while the poor stay poorer, yes this occurs in many other places, but the chinese love their money (more than any other culture i know of), yet they lack compasion for other people (one of the most rude and selfish cultures in the world). sadly none of the great confucious teachings exist in china today, yet it originated from china...

Wow, sounds like you liked Korea A LOT more than China--or is it a historical/Taiwanese thing? Anyhoo, now that you know my Yeouido secrets you can go back there every year too.

JB

I myself never been to china but i always imagined it to be the "unclean, rude" place you described. I have lived in South Korea for three years as a toddler. I dont remeber much but the couple memories i do have are all pleasant. One of them being is how great the food was there. China should really take a tip from their neighboring countries to the south. (Japan, S. Korea)

I think you missed one great point on how china sucks though. They're communist. In theory communism makes sense but it has been tried and failed many times.

P.S. GB has no idea what he is talking about and made no sense in his comment.

Great article. china is a horrendously disgusting country, and don't even get me started on their hygiene. They put so many chemicals in their food, like (like enjecting dyes into their oranges to make them more orange). They even eat dogs! (apparantly, black dogs are the best). Anyway, like the author said, there are thousands of reasons why china sucks. Go here: http://chinese-poems.com/ck/

Chinese people are stubborn and paranoid. The only reason their economy's improving is because of foreigners from US, Japan and Taiwan. Not to mention the billions of dollars in aid Japan has given China over the past 20 years, and yet they still get pissed off at every single thing they do. And for God's sake leave Taiwan alone, independence activists aren't what is threatening stability, (even though they're already independent, china's just to stubborn and retarded to notice) the sword rattling of those chinks are. If you're smart, boycott china.

not a single chink went to the Pope's funeral because Taiwan's president went. How childish and is that?

Brovo! Agreed 100%! Now at least SOME people see the real China.

Chinese citizens aren't bad (like 'muhahaha....I'm going to take over the world'), it's the Chinese government (wait, excuse me. Not government....dictatorship!). And all other countries don't mess with China, because it's so darn big and "powerful".

Leave Taiwan ALONE. For god's sake, Taiwan was better off with Japan than China! (Not that that's what I want) Which is the sad truth about my (Taiwanese) culture. Taiwan has never actually felt apart of a country until Japan came along. The Japanese came to Taiwan and brought along their wonderful technology with them. But the Chinese did no such things. They treated Taiwan like a colony, not country, colony; a bit like Great Britain and the 13 colonies.

Now, I know perfectly well that all Taiwanese are genetically Chinese (as am myself). But that's genetically; times have changed; reality comes before anything else.

I wrote this post because there has been a lot of misinformation in the Western press about China, written by people who have either never been to China or just saw the glitzy parts of Shanghai and Beijing while living in a 5-star hotel and probably being "serviced" by a masseuse. Is it any wonder that they are giddy with excitment? I just wanted to point out some realities of China to counter-balance the rosey picture that most seem to want to paint.

Your comments are absolutely accurate. I have traveled to China 6 times in the past 15 months for business, including Beijing, Shanghai, Fuzhou, Xiamen, and Guangzhou. I laughed my ass off at each number because you hit them dead on. NICE LIST!

YES, thats absolute collect.
btw, i hate china.
I hate how they perform "anti-japan" they claim japan's histroy textbook, but what japan's brand like sony,panasonic etc got to do with the war?
and chinese text book doesnt have at all about what china did to build up "china" and killed millions.

and I can be sure that japanese histry books DOES include everything, it does say what japan did and what other campanie did.

AND japan has approgied china and other countries 17 times before. but china government NEVER tells chinese citizenz that they approgied for that much.

I've been to China..is not really that bad..though...I dont just know why you hate china so much...jealous because of economic growth is way better then other countries..

Japanese testbook does not included everything sucker.
You people are so stupid, you think u r do damn smart...shut the hell up.

Chinese people are nice...give them a break. They are stil a developing country

US a lot of pollution too.
US government sucks
Japan is the dog of US.

^ lol.

u r really a bit-y-ch u dont no any thing about chinese!

^ Please see list item #7

I think China deserves more sympathy than criticisms for these reasons.


1. The Cultural Revolution was a 40-year-long setback. Putting it in perspective, that's one-fifth of America's history. During those 40 years, not only the country had completely ceased to progress, it had sabotaged and desecrated some of China's most valued traditions (teachings of Confucianism, traditional Chinese writing, etc.).

2. Communism is actually helping China. Do realize that the Chinese government has the obligation to lead 1.3 billion people to the forefront of international prominance, and since they are mostly uneducated farmers, how could faulty public opinions possibly lead the country down the right path at this moment in time? Plus, what is democracy anyway? I certainly don't see it in America. Over half of the Americans opposed war yet the Bush Administration disregarded what its people think. If that's not dictatorship then I don't know what is.

3. Why the hell should China attend the Pope's funeral? The nation is not even Catholic, and neither is Taiwan nor Fidel Castro. There is no reason for China to be part of this congregation of hypocrites, it's those non-Catholic states that deserve to be criticized.

I am not overly sure about #8 and #10, but this list is dead on accurate for all the other things, especially on #3, 4, and 9. The introduction of simplified writings completely degrades the beauty of chinese writing, it was a purely retarded decision.

Simliar situation happens to buildings, I have absolutely no idea what the hell is wrong with their modern building design, especially with those damn balls on top of those shanghai buildings.

You posted this because of "misinformation" about China? What misinformation would that be? That it isnt American?

I believe a persons experience in Asia or anywhere else is directly related to how big a chip on their shoulder they have, how important they think they - IE I am AMERICAN, bow down before me - and how close minded and anal they are. People also treat you the way you treat them and deserve to be treated -

My experience is that the Chinese people, from the NE to Shanghai are gracious, and kind, helpful, friendly and wonderfully hospitable.

The service in any restaurant I have been in is excellent! Americans could learn from the service the Chinese provide, and so could Canadians, and Europeans.

Good restaurants are clean - the food is delicious - the freshest, best veggies you could find anywhere, and so are other dishes. Sea food is still swimming in tanks when you order it. If you want a greasy hamburger or hot dog dont come to Asia. If you want good fresh food, excellent baking goods, great wine, wonderful produce - come to Asia.

As for noise and offensive people have you been to NY lately or any other big city in NA or do you live on a farm in the rockies somewhere?

The government and police are NOT dictatorial and over bearing - and learn this: "communism" is NOT a bad word. Its an exciting time to be in China and see the new communism emerge with capitalism and human rights -

Of course there is pollution, its been compared to pollution in NY and LA - Vancouver BC Canada has a brown cloud hanging over it too - duh. The government is working hard at getting pollution under control. Unfortunately the weather patterns here also add to the problem, providing inadequate venting. China needs natural gas - which is part of the issue with Japan right now.

Heres a thought for you, if you dont like China or Asia stay out of it -

I know this email is totally disorganized but bare with me.

I wish the whole wolrd would stop romanticizing China and making it seem like such a remarkable. That list is biased but mostly dead on accurate. I have live in China for a year. Yes I hate it. Yes I wish I wasn't here but since most companies are "selling out" here in China, some of use have to face the reality of living and working in China. I have traveled to about 60 countries in my life and all 7 continents and I have never met more rude, loud, greedy, stupid, arrogant people than I have in China. The food sux balls. Sure you can luck out in a few places but it mostly sux. And its so funny because the Chinese think there food is so great. The pollution is horrible anywhere you go. 5% of tap water is drinkable. Rivers, lakes and canals are so massively polluted that I think u may die if u jumped in from all the bacteria. Also, they are so difficult to work with. They are lazy and will not do anything that is too difficult. Being an engineer here is so frusturating because they are so unskilled at evreything they do. Chinese chicks are disguisting. I hooked up with several chicks and while they were giving me a BJ, they all kept spitting during the process so it made me limp everytime. Also, they don't really clean down there if u know what I mean. One thing you didn't mention on your list was driving. They don't follow any rules and it is so unsafe. I think their greed will catch up to them and destroy China eventually. The rich are getting pretty damn rich and the poor stay dirt ass poor. Real Estate is rising so fast in Suzhou where I live that I can barely afford a place. I make about 50 times the $$$ that the chinese make. The Chinese Engineers make about 3000RMB per month. That's about 365USD. My rent in Suzhou is 4 times that. I really kinda feel sorry for them because they don't know any better. They all feel that their "blind obedience" to their government or company will pay dividends so maybe they will get promoted or get a 10RMB raise. They have no sense or worth because their greed blinds them. They always fail to see the big picture. If Chinese workers were smart, they would start forming unions. I know unions suck and they nearly ruined America byut these people have no rights. They get paid crap and have to work their asses off for many extra hours with no overtime. For their sake, they should rally together and start standing up for their rights...oh wait they already did that. Remember Tienemin Square?? Its also funny how much they hate the Japanese. The government sponsored protests last month were quite amusing. China claims it didn't encourage protesting but there were signs up all over Shanghai to direct people to the protests. China would not exist like it does w/out Japan. The Japs invest billions of dollars in China yearly. It would be funny if they pulled out. Have I covered everything? China is slowly taking over the world. I just wish that they had a nicer culture and people. Why can't a country like Thailand take over the world where the people are so lovely and nice and the chicks are beautiful and have manners. Or why can't Brazil take over the world..then the world would be one big party!!! You may think I am biased or a biggot. I am not. I love all people...except the Chinese. Somebody else take over, I'm getting tired of writing........

China is the best place in the world. Period. I am chinese and having been living in various countries across the globe for prolonged amounts of time, I can conclude it is the only place I can see myself living a full, exciting fulfilled life in. I agree some parts of china however are crap. I.e. shanghai where people are just stuck up and plain rude or hong kong where they are just stuck up and obsessed with money and other material tacky junk.

Ps. Dirty Deuce, are you sure your 'lovely thai chicks' are chicks? I say no more.

I agree with the deliciously named Amanda above me. If only my name had such a ring to it. God I envy her!

Anyway,

I am half Chinese thus I agree some parts are bad and some parts are good (mixing up these genes gives one a bit more persepctive). However I take offence at the bad-food comments; anyone who says the food is bad is either:

a) Some honkey who's never eaten more than his mother's (or is she they're sister?) chow-mein.

b) Some Taiwanese nationalist hell-bent on portraying China as the new Japan.

As for non-believers in regards to the economy: open your eyes! China is destined not to be the global superpower Cletus and Troy dream about in their barns whilst indulging in bit of animal love, but the economic powerhouse that will diove the global economy.

Good Day!

Being from Taiwan, can't say I am a fan of the Chinese.

Microsoft's new Chinese internet portal has banned the words "democracy" and "freedom" from parts of its website in an apparent effort to avoid offending Beijing's political censors.

The truth is more damaging than anything i could add to this thread

China people need to overthrough their government if they know whats good for them. Stop living like crap because your government makes you!

u assholes don't know a shit about China, u are all childish shits. CHina gonna rule the world one day, and ur children will be Chinese too...

hahahah, FUCK THose who generalize ...

btw, Hong Kong and taiwan both are belong to China.............and Japan never aid China....
if u know nothing, just shut the fuck up

Define horrendous Mandarin. Is it horrendous because of the accent, or the grammar? & how can you say “most Chinese people aren’t well educated”? Do you have updated statistical evidence to back up your statement?

There are many complicated strokes in traditional Mandarin & in those days where computers weren’t the norm, it was useful to people who had to write essays, don’t you think?

When I hang out with my China friends, they always wait in line. You can’t stereotype like that! & it’s not everywhere in China that is polluted! Just the major areas! Consider major cities like Bangkok & Sydney too. Aren’t they polluted too?

Chinese people don't love to yell. I've both chatty & soft-spoken friends from China, & I live in a cosmopolitan city where they're lots of people from China. I've never heard them yell before.

You make me feel ashamed that a person like you can exist.

You fucking dont know shit. Just becasue you are not accustomed to the chinese culture doesnt give you a right to talk smack about other countries. Also I pretty much say what you said about americans. Just because you were raised in a family that didnt teach you better, you should not sterotype other people. Moslty everything you said is false and you are just a fucking dumbass.O yea chinks for life

When I first came to China, it was 1979. I saw China when it was poor. I taught for two years in Shanghai and learned a lot about the people and culture.

I returned to China ten years ago and have been living here ever since. During these last ten years, China has made great changes. However, the changes that I noticed the most were the behavior and attitude of the people.

At first, I used to think that many of the obnoxious behavior and attitudes that I came in contact with were part of Chinese culture.

As I learned more about Chinese culture and history prior to 1949, I came to realize that Chinese culture and PRC "culture" are not the same. The Chinese people had a culture and social life before 1949 that the world admired and respected.

However, after 1949, the PRC established a social order heavy with brainwashing, propaganda, censorship, and class hatred. For thirty years the Chinese people had their common decency, fairness, politeness, kindness, and humanity suppressed.

In addition, the PRC government elevated the most backward, uneducated, and conservative section of society, the peasants, to an elevated position of rule. Their customs, manners (as in none), and attitudes were allow to dominate the society.

What Westerners see in China today are the results of thirty years of the lowest section of society controling the economy, politics, and culture.

It is no wonder people say "China sucks." It is the backward habits of a peasant class combined with the rule of a communist party that temporarily destroyed traditional Chinese culture.

The Chinese people will eventually restore their natural culture and traditions. The Taiwan, Hong Kong, and overseas Chinese are the key force in building a new China. This new China will have none of the peasant/communist party influence.

I would encourage Westerners, especially Americans, to view the Chinese situation in China as if dumb blacks and poor white trash allied with the extreme left of the Democratic Party ruled the US for the last fifty years.

Imagine the chaos, stupidity, and destruction that would exist. The only music that would be allowed would be rap and country-western. The education system would be totally destroyed. The economy would decline to Third World levels.

I exaggerate a bit but if what happened to China happened to the US, the US would look like Russia or East Palo Alto.

The Sui Dynasty was a very cruel dynasty very much like the PRC. The Chinese people suffered greatly. However, it lasted last than thirty years and was then followed by the Tang Dynasty - the greatest of China's Dynasty.

The PRC will also have a short history. After this nightmare, the Chinese will build a new "Tang Dynasty."

China does not suck. The PRC and its effects on the Chinese people suck.

Yes China sucks, and it's not really the peasnats' fault, rather their lack of education and loss of traditional way of life under communism. It is much easier to control a dumb populace than an educated one, and much cheaper too. BTW, Taiwan is not a part of China and has not been since the Chinese Qing dynasty ceded it to Japan by Treaty in 1893. After the japanese left in 1945, it was not given back to China, but left in limbo. When the KMT fled to Taiwan in 1949 because of the civil war, the KMT treated it as part of China, but the PRC (communist china under mao etc) has never had any kind of jurisdiction over Taiwan, they're just pissed off with the KMT. Or don't they teach that in Chinese history books anymore?

After the japanese left in 1945, TaiWan was not given back to China, but left in limbo???
You mean KMT left TaiWan in limbo? For what?
Maybe KMT thought defeated Japan might
come back to reclaim its loot? Or maybe KMT
was too afraid of independence activists like
you? The truth is that after 1945, KMT made
Taiwan a province of China again.

Taiwan is it's own sovereign state. It's got america backing it up. I hope china tries to do something to it so they get their ass fucking rocked back to the qing dynasty.

WHY CHINA SUCKS???
I'll tell you why: the fucking baboons in this country only speak one language: mandarin. (Except for the minorities) I know many chinese who went to Northern Europe and didn't know a word of the country's language where they went to, yet they could manage by themselves and ask anything to anyone anywhere in any city of the country they were in! How??? Well, in places like Northern Europe everybody can speak English to an understandable level next to their own language. Try to speak English in China and the people there just have no idea what you are saying.(Despite the fact that most of the Chinese already start with learning English in primary school!!!)
This is a country with fucked-up blackheared baboons, and trust me: this country doesn't deserve all the praise it gets...

I agree with the recent poster, that it's the communist party that eroded the chinese culture. Of course, communism was pretty much to only form of government, for which China would emerge as a stable and progressive nation. This, however, is another topic altogether.

The good thing, is that, I have worked with academics from mainland China (both faculty and students) for the last ten years, and I do observe a positive change in attitude and work ethnic.

When I started (that's in the mid 90s), they were just about the worst type of people to work with. They are demanding, and yet, for the lack of better terms, incompotent. Even being in a foreign country for years, they still had immense trouble communicating. My (non mainland) colleagues and I had a very tough time dealing with them. There were even numerous instances of unethical (the-end-justifies-the-means) behaviour. They were so unhygenic, even the janitors refused to clean up their offices after hours.

In recent times, the new Chinese academic are much more well spoken (they may be shy, but they can express themselves with ease), and are much more pleasant. Not to mention, they are mroe passionate about themselves, and their new environment. This is what gives me hope, that China will become great once more.

BW.

weeeeellll, i think that all people have their own opinions, and if he thinks "china suks" then that what he thinks ^^ well i personally dont think china suks but yeh, if that whole lot made sense

Some parts and people are amazing. Most things are very disappointing on a world level. Racism runs riot amongst many, manners are few and far between and modern crafstmanship leaves a lot to be desired. Hopefully, as many people learn that foreigners are smart enough to learn Chinese to, they'll stop staring or passing comment like you're on another planet. I'd have to agree with one of the previous comments that China is developing far faster than the people. The divide will grow. Pathetic excuse for a government, blinder of people.

Man these threads are funny, I love the way people say china will rule the world etc, then the next one just slates food and blah blah blah. Blind patriotism rules. China has many things that are fucked up but not crackheads killing babies or drive-by's. ( yes, the US ). Every country has it's problems, people just get enraged because the brain-washing in China means that the Chinese can't see all the problems that their beloved country has. Sheep. I live here and have done for years and it pisses me off too. You will never win an argument with a chinese person if it is about 'how shit your country is'.

If China does rule the world one day, those days will be numbered, but not in a queue! Unliiimited poooooweeeeeeeeeeeeeerrrrrrrrrrr!!!!!!!!!!!

China blows ass. It also has a huge drug and aids problem that the commie government keeps hush hush. Wheres religious freedom... oh right they're not any. Not to metion threatening to nuke the US over Taiwan. Good luck with that if you nuke the US, china and their butt buddy russia will be vaporized in under an hour. Cheers.

10 reasons why China sucks?

I agree with the original thread above

right on

I just wish no one will ever mix up mainland Chinese with Hong Kong people anymore.
I found foreigners, especially people from Europe are very ignorance (no bias here, just the fact through my observation), and they think all black hair people are from China.
To be very honest, Hong Kong people generally hate mainland Chinese because they creat so many problems to Hong Kong.
For those in Hong Kong who said they love China are very left winged people.

Why mainland Chinese are being hate by Hong Konger?
1. They are rude and speak loud.
2. They import poison food to Hong Kong;
3. China is a big market for exporting postitudes; their morale standard is low
4. Mainland women try their very best to find (or steal )a Hong Kong husband, they create a lot of social problem
5. Mainland women come to Hong Kong, using Hong Kong;s hospital facilities to give birth to their babies, then simply go away WITHOUT PAYING MONEY. They love to do that because they want their kids to be a Hong Kong citizen, and in the future, when their child turn 18, he/she can apply their parents to live in Hong Kong.
6. They cheat in business, they are never honest. Actually, some people even said "Everything in China are fake, except tricksters are real."
7. Mainland Chinese come to Hong Kong and behave in a nasty way and make tourists from other countries think Hong Kong people are the same; they throw rubbish everywhere;
8. There are fake monks and beggars group come to Hong Kong to beg for money, however, Hong Kong do not have beggars for many years, and all monks and nuns will never beg for money on the street. The buddist organisation in Hong Kong already claimed many times that these people are not belong to their group.

My apology that, I have mistyped the first point I menionted earlier, it should be:

1. It should be China 'EXPORT' many poisoned food to Hong Kong.

Besides, I hate mainland Chinese's attitude that when they are in any part of the world, they expect others will understand their 'Mandarin'. Why don't they learn how to respect themselves, who do they think they are?

And one more thing I want to add, it is because they, mainland Chinese, go to other countries, hiding and working as black labours, they already create a bad enough impression to the whole world. And since westerners generally cannot distinguish between Chinese mainlanders and other black haired Asian people, therefore, all others, including people from Hong Kong, Taiwan, Korea, Thailand, Japan...etc are being treated as mainland Chinese, being discriminate in a western country, too. Really thanks for Chinese mainlanders' contribution.

Having lived in Asia for many years, it is clear that China is now the biggest threat to world peace, stability, and respect for others' cultures and independence. In the last few decades it has fought wars with many of it's neighbors. Despite years of billions in aid from Japan it plays the 'you never apologized' card, while it stockpiles nukes, missiles and flexes its muscles. It swallowed Tibet and is committing cultural genocide. Taiwan is next on its list if it gets the chance. Internally, it bullies its own people under iron rule. Remembering 100 years of shame, the cultural traditiona of 'revenge' is rearing its ugly head. What shall we expect as it turns its attentions to the rest of Asia?

I think you should be more positive with China,if you think it's OK to do this kind thing on the Internet,well then your screwed up in the head!!

I think,you must give China a chance,if you think like this,shut up!

I mostly think that China is beautiful,the food is exellent,maybe it's dirty,but that's the peoples fault,they maybe weird,but they are not bad people,if you lok more deep inside of them,there not bad,there actually friendly!

The thing's i don't like about China,is that they go down to Hong Kong to have a good impression,and then they litter that makes Hong Kong people sad!Then they talk their stupid Mandarin,thinking their cool,but there not.

One thing for Mainland Chinese people,"if your going to Hong Kong,think of that your going to have to learn manners and respect,if your going to live,or do buisness there,or even if your a tourist!"Oh yeah,don't plan to illegaly get there,because your not!

Totally understand Hong Kong peoples' frustration of being treated as mainland Chinese.
I realized Hong Kong people actually look and dress differently from mainaland Chinese.

It is very unfair to Hong Kong people that, they are being treated as illegal immigrants from China, being challenged by the customs of the whole world. However, Hong Kong people suffer the most from mainland Chinese. It is unfair that, they are also victims like the rest of the whole world, even suffer more, but they are being treated by the world as mainland Chinese.

I hope customs department of the whole world be smart, understand the difference of visitors who are holding a HKSAR passport and China passport.

Please note that, although the HKSAR (Hong Kong Special Administrative Region) passport looks very 'China', and the nationality of Hong Kongers are 'Chinese' but their birthplace is Hong Kong, please treat them nicer. Also, some Hong Kong people still hole a BNO (British National Overseas) passport. This is NOT A FAKE passport, it is the passport issued by the British government to Hong Konger when Hong Kong was a colony.

Also, I realized some mainland Chinese people told westerners that they are from 'Hong Kong'. This is also very unfair to Hong Kong people. Hong Kong people do not behave like them.

To all westerners, don't think Hong Kong people eat everything with 4 legs like the mainland Chinese. Hong Kong people are very disgusted with their behaviours, too.

China is trying to threat the US with atomic bomcs.
Reason why China invented atomic bomb is because Chineses want to revenge against all Western countries.
They want to nuke America, Europe and Japan.

The US should watch out for such Chinese barbaric future actions.

Chineses are explicitly greedy thieves.

Look at the way Chineses plunder and steal Tibetan territories. Also look at how Chineses opress Tibetans and depriving Tibetans' human right.

That unpleasant country should not have hosted Olympics.

Communist countries are usually ridiculous country

You know what just look at this
http://www.furisdead.com/feat/ChineseFurFarms/
plase look at thi site than you will know why china really sucks!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! you be talking about shit!!!!!!!1 just look that is not right!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! why people wont do anything about that!!!!!!!!!

before TIBET SHOULD BE FREED

china is a shithole. i was in guandong (for only a day, thank god) in 98, horribly polluted cesspool of a city, people where rude, and just looking at what passed for "food" in some of the roadside stands made me wanna puke......i think all western countries and japan should cut all relations and transactions with china,and suspend all business dealings with them also, then maybe it might think about freeing tibet and quit fucking with taiwan and japan........if the chinese want to keep their economy buzzing, they will have to do as we say.

now on to a post that really irked me....

"I believe a persons experience in Asia or anywhere else is directly related to how big a chip on their shoulder they have, how important they think they - IE I am AMERICAN, bow down before me - and how close minded and anal they are. People also treat you the way you treat them and deserve to be treated -"

way to make generalizations, asshole. at least mine werent unsubstantiated.

"My experience is that the Chinese people, from the NE to Shanghai are gracious, and kind, helpful, friendly and wonderfully hospitable."

eh, no.

"The service in any restaurant I have been in is excellent! Americans could learn from the service the Chinese provide, and so could Canadians, and Europeans."

oh, you mean work 16 hour days for 2 pennies an hour?

"Good restaurants are clean - the food is delicious - the freshest, best veggies you could find anywhere, and so are other dishes. Sea food is still swimming in tanks when you order it. If you want a greasy hamburger or hot dog dont come to Asia. If you want good fresh food, excellent baking goods, great wine, wonderful produce - come to Asia."

dont make me laugh, the "fresh veggies" i saw in guangdong could give you the shits just from looking at them.

"The government and police are NOT dictatorial and over bearing - and learn this: "communism" is NOT a bad word. Its an exciting time to be in China and see the new communism emerge with capitalism and human rights - "

i beg to differ, maybe you should ask the tibetans/uighurs how "un-overbearing" and "un-dictatorial" the chinese authorities are....... or better yet, all the political prisoners making nikes at gunpoint in filthy prison sweatshops around that filthy country....

in conclusion, kindred is quite the line towing sino asskisser...

People!!!!!!!!!!!!!

I am sure you will be disappointed with China if you ever dream of traveling China.
Never buy foods in China!
I went there and I was shocked with
They are unhygenic and cause you stomachache since they contain lead and cadnium with toxic chemicals..

If you want to be healthy, better not eat foods in China.

Chineses are so unpleasant.
I visited to China this summer, and I have never seen any people who are so nasty to tourists.
I went to Hotel, and the manager says the room costs about 40 US Dollar and foods in the fridge are all free. I had 2 cans of coke and a bottle of water.
But they charged me 200 Dollar.
I asked why, and the manager threated me with his folks with knives.
And he threated me if I don't give tips to them all.

I know that China is a sloppy Communist country, with low GDP per capita, but I have never seen as barbaric and brainless species in my life.

I got so disgusted and felt awful, so I cancelled the rest of the trip in China.
I recommend not to visit China.

China is the most unpleasant place to visit for tourists. If you visite there, you will lose money and will get assaulted at any time.

I heard that Capital Punishement exists in China.
If one of weather forecaster casts incorrectly, then the person will get Death Penalty.
I know that it would damage largely in China, but I find it very foolish and ridiculous.
I find Chineses have mental illness in general.

Guys, give china a well-deserved break..
It's a developing country for God's sake! The GDP per capita of China is around $1,000.. What do you guys expect? Witht the 9% growth, China would be a decent developed country in ..50 years.. Come back LATER!

China, imho, is more like the US in late 19th century... when most of the population were literally redneck farmers and shitted on the street. we all know what happened a hundred years later (half of the population voted a redneck to the whitehouse..... twice)

Joking aside, for those Taiwanese or overseas chinese people who used harsh works on those Chinese living in China: you guys suck! Seriously... ask your grandparents or maybe just your parents what kind of life they live before you think you are born to be better than those live in mainland

Why dont you guys stop sucking white dicks and just be a proud chinese and live with your head up? Why dont you have to curse on your brothers and sisters just because they live in a poor country? You guys dont feel obliged to help? You Chinks think you guys are treated well in the US now? Tell me, why do your fellow asian american girls suck whitetrash's dicks, not your little Wangs?

lol^^

For all those Free Tibet rants..

You guys can just shut the hell up.. Go back to Ireland, Italy, Germany or China wherever your ancesters were from... Give the beautiful land back to the native americans.. Give Texas and California back to the Mexicans..

Mainland China FREED Tibet and we didnt genocide nobody... we just emigrate to Tibet.. so what's your problem? It's not likely any of you guys are native americans.. so what's the difference?

That was very funny !!! you could you even make it sound retarted for teachers to read!!! because at our chrismas play were trying to fing the most stupidest play ever but i guess we ca'nt use yours owell thanks eneywase!!!!!

First of all, I want to say, this site should be taken down. U hate China. So wat live with it it's not like every1 has to listen to ur ramblings about how much u hate it. As for me, I am Chinese. Though i agree. I can't stand China. I don't live there. I HATE it there.(i visted there once) But don't take it out on all chinese people.Not all Chinese are rude and arrogant. I hate the people there too. They scared the shit outta me and one grown up said he would lock me up in closet because i was crying (i was only 9) I agree with most of wat u hav said. but i am offended by the way u keep saying "CHINESE PEOPLE" now that is rude. I hate being chinese and the way my culture is. its not my fault that sum of my people are rude and just plain stupid. I hate that. I wish i were not Chinse. Thank God i was born in the U.S .U wouldn't be saying that u were chinese, u dum arrogant jerks who don't care about how other chinses people reading this feels.

LOL Chang. Well as a Chinese American I can honestly say that you have no idea what living in the US is about. No one is sucking the"white mans dick". I see a huge racism problem in mainland china especially with Han chinese. They think they are racially superior to other races and cant live in harmony with others. The US is completly differant from mainland china in this regard. Sure they are racism everywhere in the world but the life and harmony of differant races in the US is light years ahead of mainland china. I have been to china many times but I am an American chinese first and foremost with the emphasis on being American. I also have a white girlfriend. Its called a global society to my backward brethren in mainland china. :)

Before I start my ranting, I respect the fact that you put American in front of Asian. I have no problem with that.
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LOL juicer....

Dude you really dont know what you are talking about... You sound a lot like Bill O'Reilly to me: you drag everything out from your ass...

Racism problem in mainland china? Dude, my mom is a minority (chinese muslim with a little mid-asian look), my dad is a Han... No problem.. OK, let me put it this way, minorities in China look pretty much like Han Chinese, that might be why we live in peace.. but anyways, claiming that there is a huge racism problem in Mainland China is as stupid as you still think the God is white (lol on your intelligent design bullcrap)

On the other hand, you are saying American people are living in harmony? Let me quote something from the US television

"they are so poor, so black..."
"George W Bush dont like black people"

oh, wait, it sounds like what, last September? And dont forget what Rosa Parks had fought for... Some of you Asian Americans are pathetically denying the racial problems in the US... just because you make more than brothers doesnt mean you are treated as equally as white.. Just because you date 'up'.. dude, now that's ridiculous.. LOL let me quote ya , little slant-eyed chink "I also have a white girlfriend" , LOL

The chinese goverment is a bastard, no doubt about it.. but talking about racial policies in China... I give them 4.5 out of 5...

Damn some of you asian americans who fanatically deny who you are and look down upon your poor brothers and sisters in China ... damn you Michelle, I married white, Malkin (now, that's funny)

Your ranting proves my point. They are radicals in every country but the American soceity is a melting pot of assimilation. Yes Im proud of my chinese heritage but Im also proud of being an American. My loyalty goes to the US if a conflict ever broke out between the US and China. The reason for this is because of the communist authoritarian rule of the PRC. They hate our own people and will do anything to stay in powe there and I and my family want nothing to do with the mainland until it becomes democratic. Dont get me wrong I love chinese culture the Classic culture before 1949. Also, the han chinese are very racist against whites and blacks I have seen it with my own eyes so I dont need you trying to tell me what is and isnt. I lived in mainland china for 15 years and was there last month on a buisness trip.

In the good old days, i was a school bully... Let me kick the crap out of you, little "I also have a white girlfriend", William Hung wannabe, Juicer

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I thought we were talking about racisms in the US and China? I thought you claimed that you guys are living in peace in the US, no matter if you are white , black , asian or brown? Uh? Dont dodge the bullets. Dont start talking about the human rights shit. I know how bad it is in China. We are talking about racism.

Wow, you came to the US at age 15? Had a lot of fun in high school, did you? Pushed around by white kids because of your funny accent? Kicked around by black kids because of your little Wang? And oh, it's sad... ABCs aint hanging out with you coz of your fobby looking?

Oh, god forbids a war between China and the US.. That will be the last day of your little Chinaman's freedom... LOL, you didnt have a good education in the US, did ya? Internment camps, ring a bell? Wen Ho Lee, ya know what I am talking about? Again, Chinese goverment is bastard, but it has never put a whole RACE in camp.. Read your fucking history book before you talk shit...

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Truth hurts, doesnt it? So much for your "all races live in harmony in the US" bullcrap.... dude, do you watch TV? Are you retarded or color blind? 1992 LA riots had nothing to do with race, MLK, Cesar Chavez are all white, thousands of white refugees lived in the Superdome... and sure, OJ didnt kill his wife.. LOL

My friend, let me tell ya somehting... your screen name here "Juicer" is very homo... And I am sorry, sodomy is a sin in the US coz it's still ruled under the two thousand year old bible...

Wanna have more fun, my little "I came here at age 15 , but you know what? I also have a white girlfriend" Juicer?

Do some research, read some book, then come back

I came to the US when I was 22. Your ramblimgs prove my point. I dont debate with indoctrinated idiots like yourself. The US systemis greater than mainland chinas and their is no way around that fact. You say you were a bully and call people homo, its just what I thought about you probably some young fat kid that talks trash and spreads intolerance on the internet.
As my british friend says Yobs the lot of you. You probably arent even chinese.

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I have a few points
1.China is dirty and polluted but not in all places. There are unpolluted forests too.
2.The places that are polluted in China are large cities.
3.It is polluted because there are too many people.
4.There is not a lot of space for people to live in
5.US has the largest living space in the world, so you can’t compare the two.
6.The people who say free Tibet, shut up.
7.Chinese people don’t hate Hong Kong people
8.China is making progress. They made a train track to Tibet, their technology is becoming more advanced.
SHUT UP YOU STUPID PEOPLE! YOU ARE VERY VERY VERY ******* STUPID! TAKE A LOOK! Idiots!

Read my post, people. It's sencible, unlike what SOME people wrote!

China is polluted everywhere.

None of a single place is clean in China.

Even forests, National Parks, museums and River are flooded with muds, chemical toxic, and germs.

China burns tons of coals in every local area, those burnt acid evaporate in the air, and rains which cause massive destruction of the environment.

Water in China is obviously dirty and tasteless, and many Chineses suffer with diseaes.

So, China is obviously the dirtiest country in the world along with taiwan, india, pakistan, and thailand.

So all Chineses!
Stop ranting and raving like mentally chanllenged patients!
Your idiot comments make your garbage country even more foolish!!!!!!!!!!!

Stop stop barking!

China and its ppl sucks. one thing is for sure, british and americans may be ethnically similar but cultrally different and the same goes for ppl who may be white/ yellow/ black/ brown or red. i hate china and wish that this evil power will be contained before disaster strikes.

BTW, Tibet and Taiwan are supposed to be free. However it has been robbed of its identity by the PRC and whoever who suppotys china in its evil ways have their brains stuffed up their arses.

Free Taiwan!!!
Free Tibet!!!
Free Hong Kong!!!
Free Macau!!!
Free East Turkestan!!!

shut up

If you atcually took the time to read my post, you'll see that I wrote "CHINA IS POLLUTED BECAUSE THERE'S TOOOO MANY PEOPLE" If you were to live in a house with say, 10 people, would the house be squeeky clean? Huh? Also, part of the reason parts of China is messed up is because of the stupid government. They actually create poverty. They just make rich people richer and poor people more poor. So shut up!

By the way, shut up about Free Tibet.

Although right now there are many places unsatisfied in china, it is progressing, faster than US & Canada. Each time when I get back to china, I always find it changed greatly. I am sure china will be getting better and better.

I agree with you the way you view the issue. I remember Jack London once said everything positive has a negative side; It is also interesting to see different viewpoints & learn useful things in the discussion.

I am a Thai (Chinese-Thai) who has visited China over 5 times in 10 years as well as other countries. When you say Chinese, you cannot stereotype them because it's so hugh, so diversified. It's so narrowed-mind as if you say mankind on earth is shit.

Nevertheless,

No matter how much economically Chinese is developing in term of GDP growth or narrowing income disparities (the latter is quite difficult), the country will lack behind others because of its modern cultures. They are brain-washed by its educational system and dictated media. People are extremely materialistic and selfish. NOT EVERYONE of cause, however, you are rightly say if majority are seemingly so.

Generally (and I mean generally), I do not think Chineses are good people compared to other nations - particularly its GOVERNMENT.

For god's sake, please let Japanese go, the country has numerously apologised and helped China developed for years (even if the help is for Japan's own benefits). There are so so many adversities Chinese anchesters did to their own people in history of thousand years. How many Chineses the beloved chairman Mao killed directly and indirectly during his memorable days... If your anchester kill someone else, is it a appropriate thing to do as chineses doctrined by Confusious to ignore paying respect to them? The anti-Japanese movement is nothing more than a political game Chinese government do simply to boost its own nationalism.

As someone above says Taiwan is A COUNTRY. Yes, it's true Please let them govern themselves. What has China contributed to the country in its modern time? vitually - NOTHING or significantly low. Its culture, technology, economy and ways of life have been formed by its own people - Taiwanese - also Japan and world communities. (and yes, even if the countributions are mutual beneficial.)

All I can say. I DO NOT HATE CHINESE IN GENERAL. But Chinese as a whole have a plenty of room for change and adjustment to be deemed civilised in the world community.

Ok, first off i'd like to address that i'm from hongkong and i live in canada, where there are equally many (and i mean MANY) chinese and hong kong immigrants.

1) YES!! generally speaking cantonese people dislikes mandarin people is true!
-HOWEVER not many mandarin people dislike cantonese people
2)As much as i hate to admit, cantonese people do love to brag a lot about hong kong to a degree it's fake
3)Cantonese people are proud of cantonese language and hate mandarin language
4.) If you go to cantonese restaurants, THEY TREAT MANDARIN PEOPLE WORSE!!!

ON MY ABOVE POST
what i generall mean is in terms of being cantonese or mandarin, people hate each other. I think both sides have their social problems when they're together and because china is reunited with hongkong again, I think cantonese people and mandarin people should be able to get togethe without conflicts

It's funny to see a Thai talking shit..

If you guys are so good, so superb.. why do millions of Thai guys cut their little penis off to be women?

And tell me, why do westerns and now chinese people travel to Thailand? Sex travel anyone? Under-age prostitutes anyone?

As Kurt Vonnegut might tell ya: you human beings disgust me...

Why did you delete those racist comments from your fella american people that told you guys to get the hell out of America?

Look, I am no advocate of racism, but since the whole thread here is about discrminating against mainland chinese. It'd be more fair and balanced if you hadn't deleted those racist comments against Asian people.

You guys need a reality check.. Dont tell me you guys are treated like others in the US, coz you are not.. well, white people get better service even in Chinatowns ..

I am just wondering, where is that suckie fob, "I came to US at age 22, but I also have a white girlfriend" Juicer?

Chineses should no longer act like little children.
We know that China is a Communist country also an evil imperialist country.
Although China has a little potential to grow, China is still an unfaithful country

I like America better than China.
Americans are true Democrats who fight for justince but Chineses are nothing but thieves and criminals.

Bravo, someone actually speaking poorly of the Chineses. I've never been to China but I have a biased opinion of them because my wife is Cambodian (khmer) and the part China took in the rise of Pol Pot is rarely spoken of. America Usually takes all the blame, which they with out doubt helped destabilize the country, but China took direct action to destroy the government of Cambodia. This of course resulted in 1.5 to 3 million deaths. China is given to much recognition only because they can mass produce products cheap,
and the corporate pigs here will ignore anything if they can resale with big profit. We Americans have been drawn in like every other power that has tried to influence China. Soon we'll all be speaking chineses and making cheap plastic toys for THEM.

Come on! Whoever said that Japanese people helped Chinese is talking ****shit! What gave you that idea? And for god sakes, Japan IS a country of it's own! Whoever told you it wasn't? Idiot! Go home and do some studying you numbskull!

sum of u people mistakenly judge the chinese. i am cantonese and i have tons of maderin friends and i can make friends with other types of people as well. I don't go judging other countries and places if i hadn't actually been in it and stayed in it. Even though i was born here in the u.s, i been to china twice and yes they are rude and mean, but its because of their government. the chinese in china has no one to influence them to change. my mom had a father there once and the government kept him in jail for 10 years for something he didn't do. Its not their fault they are different from people in america. If only they were influenced by good people around them and had a developed nation and weren't so poor, they could be better people. don't you think if u were born in china u would be the same as them? maybe maybe not, but don't get angry at them because of who they are. its kind of sad though.

instead of passing insults and telling china that they are dirt, feel sorry for them and feel happy that u don't live there.

Japan never helped China.
Japaneses are and were thieves all the time.
But Chineses were thieves in the past for centuries......
Both are unfaithful and distrustful ppl

YOU KNOW WHY THIS GUY HATES CHINA? BECAUSE THIS LOSER HAILS FROM TAIWAN..

IVE BEEN TO TAIWAN.. YUCKS REEKS OF ROTTEN FISH.. PATHETIC COUNTRY FILLED WITH TEMPLES AND NOTHING ELSE..

FUCK TAIWAN (BTW IM NOT FORM CHINA U SONNABITCH TAIWANEEEESSS)

OK PEOPLE
you say that the fact that Japan changed its textbook and contains false information. That's true, they did alter the real history behind the textbook.

But what you might not know is that Chinese Communist Government DOES that in their school textbooks (mostly grade 6) up to middle school.
Although information portraied is not FAKE, HOWEVER THEY DO EXAGERRATE ON HOW COMMUNIST GOVERNMENT IS THE "SUPREME" and INFLUENCE KIDs FROM YOUNG AGE ABOUT how GOOD COMMUNISM IS!!

Let me put it this way... There are 4 evils in east asia

1) Chinese communist party (no free speech, no free media, no election whatsoever)

2) Corp USA (greedy bastards, Walmart, do I need to say more?)

3) Japanese neo-jingolism movement (trouble makers, trying to abandon the peace-constitution)

4) North Korean bastards...

People, there is no hope there... WWIII is waiting

fuck taiwanese people, who ever host this website is a taiwanese fucked up guy, he just has this haste on china cuz china is getting better and better than taiwan, taiwan is cann't do shit now because if they do, we great chinese will fuck up the whole island by drop some bombs, nuclear power give china the ability to fuck taiwan up. no doubt, and liaoy yu sheng, a shit taiwanese guy will vanish from this world, FUCK YOU LIAO YU SHENG..... JUST FUCK YOU. your mama and your fucking whole family will be fucked up once will drop the bomb. we will drop one in cheng shui bian's family and we will drop on in your family, i think that is enough to fuck up the whole tiny island. if two is not enough, we have more to make the stupid island disappear from the earth...............

i must agree with lia yusheng with ten reasons why china sucks. First of all, i agree that you son of a bitch heads have no courtesy. Have you seen any chinese people eat at a banquet? Oh my FUCKIN GOD THEY ARE SO DISCOURTEOUS. it takes FOREVER TO GET THE FOOD BECFAUSE THEY STICK THEIR FUCKIN CHOP STICKS IN THE FOOD. i mean the food is so contaminated it is disgusting. This is why china sucks

fuck taiwan,

taiwanese eat digushing shit,

chinese are different from taiwanese, just making fucking sure you fucking know that.
you little fuck shit head.

replyig back to JO momma, DUDE, what the fuck is ur problem? Stop spamming YOU FUCKIN SHIT HEAD. You got a problem with taiwan people? Well, i can tell you to kiss my ass and suck my dick head u mutherfucken cunt head

THIS IS AN EXAMPLE OF HOW UNCIVILISED THE CHINESES ARE WHEN THEY GIVE OPINIONS:

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It's funny to see a Thai talking shit..

If you guys are so good, so superb.. why do millions of Thai guys cut their little penis off to be women?

And tell me, why do westerns and now chinese people travel to Thailand? Sex travel anyone? Under-age prostitutes anyone?

As Kurt Vonnegut might tell ya: you human beings disgust me...

Posted by: Chang at November 19, 2005 04:32 AM
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You guys can see how rude and unreasonable some chineses are here... It's simple as that! ... Most of Chinese are shit! ... Only a small handful of them is acceptable... You may be developing economically but CHINESES' MIND ARE JUST FULL OF SELFISHNESS.

Horrible country, horrible people...

Chineses go to HELL.

if you don't listen to china and china get mad you fuck up and die because we chinese (not tiwanese or pieces of shit like those) are the greatest human beings in this earth. JO MAMMA IS TOTALLY RIGHT!!! We greatest china have power to sink the whole island of taiwan with our devastating nuclear bombs with the bulge of our eyes and blow the living fat ass american bitches into shredded pork within few minutes. here's my ranking of how great a person is
1.) CHINESE
2.) all the rest of you motherfucking whiggers, niggers, japs, jews, taiwanese penile stains, and all you dead shit carcasses lying around the rest of the globe

ps taiwanese people - if you want independence so much then y don't you go head on with our greatest chinese communist government. Let's see you go up to them and argue. I guarantee within 3 seoncds you'd be pissing your pants running bakc to your taiwanese shithole crying your little pussy asses off

In some parts of China, there are realtions like in the middle ages. China has no Regulates. This country sucks! A pity for all the people who live there.

This place is so fucked up... You guys are all retarded, chinese or not.. you guys are just fucking stupid...

spam name i know, tell me about it its crazy. allright.....i live in shanghai and im only a kid...so you dont have to listen.... so dont get me wrong but i agree with alot of the shit you say about CHina. I demand that you put "spitting and open coughing" as number 1 on your shit list. Cus well....it drives me nuts. My AYE (maid...you know..the one that cleans) after washing the sink...SHE FRIKEN SPITS IN IT 2 seconds after she cleans it. i dont get that. but yea..im gonna argue that there are a lot of good things about shanghai and this website is just making you look like a negative, narrow minded dude who likes to comment about why china sucks. its pretty cool dude...it has its cons...but hell yeah it has his pros...ill be happy if you put "10 reasons why china sucks...AND...not or...AND..10 reasons why CHina rocks hard core" yeah...thats all i gotta say...you dont have to listen...im cool with it since there are friken 50000000000 posts on this website anyways. i love yall...i love the internet....keep expressing your self everyone..

oh yea i forgot...i love you hardcore...i once heard a joke...you know what it was..here ill tell you for all the sad lives of people that actually have time for a website called "why china sucks....common people...get a hobby...do something with your life instead of reading the views of narrowminded people" but yeah....the joke was............this website sucks A s s LOL HAHAHAHAHAHAA funny shit i know...no seriously it does..and im only writing so much cus this was a school assignment...... bananas with ketchup is good shit...then stick it up your ass...mmmmmmm...homemade...i love it

lol u guys r lyk n00bz.. i lyk live in teh chinaz// and it like haxes american noobs.. we dont go no dumb american president who blows teh fuck out of ppl to restore peace... more like a war to end peace... JAJAJAJA n00bz... lyk china economy also haxes urs... and lyk we gots ayis who spit on dishes like sheeskaa mama said.. we also got BOOZE here taht u poor 21 year and below minors cannot afford aww ja boboo poor baby :* go sex a fucking dildo cause u cant even afford one CAUSE ITS 21$$ NIGGA HERE ITS 10 RMB tHATS 1 FUCKING BUCK BITCESH I DONT NEED UR SHIT TO BITCH ABOUT CHINA ILL FUCKIN KILL U ALL.. CHINAS GOT NUCKEALR BOMBS WE AINT AFRAID OF NO AMERICAN BITCH GO TELL BUSH TO TRIM IT AND FUCK U ALL GOOD NIGHT.. BILL LCINTON OWNED BUT HE ALSO CHEATED.. SHOWS HOW STUPID AMERICANS ARE JAJAJAJAJA

Lol china kinda sucks but its kinda funny too. I hax in china and it totally rox americas sox. Like one time i was on me school bus and my holmes saw these chinese dudes on a bicycle, and we're like hax and threw a scrunched up tissue at them. and then our bus got stopped at the red light so we re like oh shit and the person on bicycle he uses one thumb to cover his left nostril and then blows super hard and then this snot flys like ass and lands on our bus windows. and then we r all like wtf and laughing our asses off. Like this is total shows the skills of chinese ppl. AZN4LIFE

wtf mate ^^ that stuff is so fucked

but guess what. GET USED TO IT. this is china. love it cause it's china. the culture here is different, and remember that china modernized some 150 years after all the european nations started it. if we pulled you western nations back 150 years. wow that's the american civil war! seems pretty low technology from back then. anyways, my point is. if you have a problem with china, go stick your finger up your ass and maybe you'll understnad better.

or maybe i'll call bush to blow a nuke on himself. wahahaha.

To: The person who began this website

Seriously dude, this page has become too unorganized. Try deleting some comments that were there months ago...

There is no point deleting comments.
Chineses are definitely dishonest fools.
If China sucks shit, then Chineses should rather consider why ppl say such things, rather than deleting comments like little children.

I began to look down upon Chineses as dogs.
Actually Chineses are lower than dogs.

Americans and Canadians should kick all Chineses out of their countries since Chineses steal top confidential infos by sending spies.

Also, China is a criminal Communist country and consistently kill you ppl.
Plus, China develop internationally illegal weapons to threat Japan, USA, Braitain, Russia.
So, the world should do away with China otherwise China will kill you ppl for no reason.

i live in canada, and chinese people are taking over here, i hope the government gets a clue and stops accepting every chinese person that applies to get here,seriously in some cities u can walk a block and nto see one single white person

As an ethnic Chinese whose grandparents came to Malaya (now Malaysia), I always felt growing up that Chinese culture was very rough and uncouth. Don't get me wrong, I am not trying to put down or insult. I realize that my grandparents were from the peasant class and had they been from the upper class, maybe my impression would have been different. But living in a former British colony and exposed to education in missionary schools which emphasized politeness, cleanliness and good manners, Chinese culture (at least the rough peasant culture that many Chinese immigrants practiced) to me seemed very unsophisticated. Yes, I think Chinese culture has achieved a lot in the past but since the 1700's really stagnated or maybe even went backwards. I attribute this to arrogance. There is something about Chinese culture that makes them assume that they always know best and they don't need to learn from other cultures. This is an objective view as someone who is a ethnic Chinese and wants nothing but the best for the Chinese culture. I write based on my experience as descendents of Chinese immigrants. I have been to China, but only a brief visit to Beijing in 1998 so I won't comment on mainland Chinese culture. My wishlist on the Chinese culture that I am familiar with:

1. Discard the culture of cheapness. Stop trying to make everything using the cheapest methods possible.

2. Make cleanliness a priority.

3. Make aesthetics a priority. Stop making ugly things.

4. Stop telling ethnic Chinese who wants to improve Chinese culture to feel ashamed of themselves.

5. Make humility a virtue.

6. Learn from the Japanese. Yes, the Japanese nation did terrible things in the past but don't let the past be an obstacle to the future. The difference between Japanese and Chinese culture is like night and day. Japanese products and services are usually higher quality, more refined and more beautiful. Just look at the way the present their food and compare it with Chinese food. Japan is so clean and people are so polite.
I am not advocating Chinese imitate the Japanese, but simply learn a thing or two from them.

Cheers
C

Civilians Killed by Governments in the Twentieth Century: Top Three Regimes

Soviet Union (Communists) 61,900,000 1917-1990................................
China (Communists) 35,200,000 1949- Present ............................
Germany (Nazi Third Reich)20,900,000 1933-1945

Mainland Chinese people are no different from Hong Kong people. Most Hong Kong people are rude, have bad manners, discriminating, makes money their god. They spit everywhere. So who says HK people are superior to the mainland Chinese??? They only want to be, that I can say.

First of all, you mention a lack of education. Well it's obvious YOU are uneducated because you seem to forget that you are living in a country with a different culture and different customs. Yes, cutting in lines and spitting is prominent and it is disgusting and so is the fact that there is veyr little eprsonal space but this is due to the mass overcrowding in both the rural areas and major cities. Furthermore, the part about people 'yelling' is usually misunderstood. Just as I have seen in Israel people often yell and scream at one another when infact they are merely communicating or tellnig a story of something annoying or ridiculous that happened that day. The bottom line is cultural differences. It is not considered rude in China..maybe to a foreigner like you (I don't care if you're of Chinese descent or not!). You should be the one assimilating, not the chinese! Afterall, you are the one gonig to live in their country. I have been to Shanghai and I find it to be one of the most sophisticated cities in China as well as one of the most beautiful! As I said before, if you have an opinion keep it to yourself. you talk about 'progress' but what does that really mean? The fact that China is slipping more and more away from its old socialist values are clearly having an effect on the locals; eg. more nad mre poor people on the streets. I find , after eating in tourist and local restaurants, that the food is actualy quite good. As for your comments on how H.K. and Taipei have those 'good things ' too...guess what? Taiwan, Macau, Manchuria, Hong Kong...they're all part of China! Just check a map of the world. Going aside from the negatives of the article you are right about a few things. Firstly, Mao's decision to simplify Chinese was a good one to increase literacy and also to help people speaking different dialects to better understand one another. HOWEVER it is a shame that people now virtualy only use simplified mandarin and not traditional. Also, I agree with you that the people have horrible mandarin...just go to Beijing they have the most unintelligable dialect of all the mainlanders.

To switch topics for just a moment, it's simply ridiculous what a previous blogger was insinuating by showing death rates in the U.S.S.R. and the third -reich of all nations and regimes! You think those numbers are self explanatory but that is exactly the problem! no one in their right mind can say that China is perfect but Mao was a great visionary and definately was not comparable to Hitler or Stalin. Many of those casualties were suffered during a civil war against Chiang Kai-shek...the Taiwanese will tell you how great he was...aside from kill the Japanese he wasn't very usefull! He killed just as many chinese peasants and backed up the greedy capitalist war and land lords who he gave power to in China. Oh yeah, capitalism sure is way better. I could give you the numbers too but unless I went on explaining the history behind them all they'd mean nothing to you at all

Now, I'm not saying that China is perfect and I could on forever going through the many comments posted here that are one. As one of the first commenters said you can't just make stereotypes. Mao was not perfect, nor is the government. How about you find better things to do aside from stereotypnig. you, sir, the authour of the aforementioned article are an embarassment to the chiense nation! You have insulted a hard worknig and honest people and for that i am rather out raged.

I have to go now, please everyone think about what I have said.

sincerely,

Alexander J Hill, esq.

well, you ppl sure have a lot to say. the thing is, you guys just think one thing and just say it with out thinking about it like Dirty Deuce, john doe, Fred Rogers, Sars and other ppl. you ppl dont no shit and you ppl only live in ur little world that contain wats around u. sure chinese might have manner problem, americans doesnt? they fking dont care about stuff but themselves. sure they a great nation (just like china) but they still got things ppl not proud of. you guys gota face the reality, no country start of like a perfect nation. look at britian or french. the revolutions, the dictatorship, the hunger. gave china some credit, it might not be the country of perfection, but its moving toward there.

you saying the goverments are bad? (well, it is bad cause of some ppl), look at Bushhead, is he such a good person? cheats on the voting thing, provoking war just for oil and wealth, leaving all the black ppl stranded when disasters struck and he still got the position to be the president. where the fk is justice.

the food definately rock, and if u think not then 2 bad. if you dont like it then dont, i dont like some of the food in western world, so guess wat, i dont eat it....
it might not be so clean which i have noticed, so thats y u only eat at clean restaurants and leave the one thats not clean to bankrupt and teach them a lesson

some ppl said that chinese ppl cant talk english. y the fk should they, they live happily in their own country, doing wat they like, y the fk do they wana learn english. y is english soooo important. y dont u learn chinese then, see how u like it

about the japan, china thing, there not much to say except that japan stole all the stuff from china. wonder y japanese character looks sort of the same as chinese? cause they stole it and simplified it to some other stuff. even i can read some of the characters in japan

for the free taiwan thing, i cant say much. u dont really no wats goin on around the goverments head. but i think its part of china and i feel disgraced that the mainland didnt put much care in it but its put of the great nation

my final comment, you said that chinese ppl arent polite, well i can say that for all the countries out there. some might have less (like canada, a great place) well others have lots. chinese ppl are getting better at doing this, it just take one thing, time. you cant be like ya i met this chinese person and he was rude, so chinese ppl are rude. i cant b like u are rude to chinese ppl so white ppl are rude. that doesnt make sense.

as i have said, china is not a bad or a perfect place. it depends on how u look at it, if u just look at it like its a crappy place, then thats all ull ever think about

P.S. we dont suc but u can say that to just someone who does and if u just say china suc, well have to deal with it outside

did u hear abt tt guy whose blog got cancelled cuz he insulted the chinese goverment?????? I tink tt was totally crazy n screwed up...... china's a huge country and the communist goverment can't control everyting dat's going on ... so instead of wasting their time on rubbish they should do something about all the air and water and NOISE pollution ..... or they could investigate the student killings tt happened 20 years ago...... hold on ..... THEY KILLED THE STUDENTS..... and the chinese gvt is alwayz right..... not..... and the chinese hatred for anyone with dark skin is totally screwed.... trust me, i noe....

Greetings Comrades.

This is directed to the original poster, who probably doesn't give a damn about this anymore, and regrets bringing it up in the first place! Well, let me tell YOU something, I'm about to make you regret it even more. You have made s a list of 10 things that are bad exclusively to China; well I will rebut each and every one.

1. Bad internet service...

Rebuttal: Guess what idiot, there are people here in Canada that have bad internet! Some people DON'T even have internet at all! Does that mean we are a backward society??? NO. Does that make us a "scary-ass" country? NO.

2. Horrible mandarin:

Rebuttal: I speak both Cantonese and Mandarin and I must say that even though Cantonese is my first language, and Mandarin is my weakest dialect, I can still understand when someone from Beijing, or Shanghai, or Xi'an speaks to me! The Mandarin you hear people speaking in mainland China is "Commoner" talk, and that is the way that it should be accepted. If 1.2 billion Chinese speak in that way (And that number of speakers is relatively accurate), then how can you say that it is horrible? If the 60 million people who live in France speak FRANCE French, does that mean that the 10 million people who live in Quebec and speak Quebecois French are barbaric, or behind? NO. Just because you have learned (Assuming you can actually SPEAK the language) in a way that is different, does not mean that their way is horrible. Learn to be more open-minded.

3. Simplified Chinese is an abomination...

Rebuttal: As Alex said, Mao implemented the Simplified system to allow literacy rates to improve! This was an attempt to make China MORE advanced! Also, as Mao saw, English was the world language of commerce, mainly because it was easy to learn! Well, as wise as Mao was, he wanted more foreigners to pick up the Chinese language so that Chinese may eventually replace English (Or work alongside, for any Brits out there reading this) as the world language of commerce! Mao wanted to go even as far as doing what the Vietnamese did and abolish the character system and write using the "Pinyin System" (i.e. Ni Hao Ma?). Does wanting to increase literacy make Chinese behind? NO. Does wanting to have an economy powerful enough to challenge that of the US backward or wrong? NO.

4. Rudeness...

Rebuttal: Well, we are obviously accustomed to politeness and all this nice good stuff where people are nice to everyone else. In China, and in Canada where there are a lot of Chinese people (i.e. Pacific Mall in Toronto), the culture of pushing and shoving etc... reaches over from the mainland! Personally, people who live in North America are generally, how should I put this... FAKE. In China, people will tell you things as they are, and they will act as they think necessary to get what they want, and to get things done. In North America, it's all, "Oh go ahead! I didn't want that XBOX 360 that badly!" then the sucker goes home to face his disappointed child who had been begging for it for a long time! If that were Chinese people, it would be more like this, "Well Little Zhang! I had to trample 4 people to get it, but here it is!", and even for the parents who didn't get the XBOX, they just say, "I FOUGHT VALIANTLY FOR IT, BUT ONE MAN, CAME, SAW AND BOUGHT..." And Chinese kids who are a lot more respectful of their parents than kids here would not be sad, they would be proud. (This is a hypothetical situation, and may not have happened...) So, does a firm desire to get things done mean you are backward, or behind?? NO.

5. Pollution...

Rebuttal: The pollution in China is a product of the ever expanding Chinese economy. Also, we have pollution here in Canada as well, and in the United States, and pretty much everywhere there is a high density of population and powerful economic forces, so does this make us backward, scary or horrible? NO.

6. Hocking phlegm...

Alright... No argument here... (Except for the fact that people everywhere do it, but yeah, mainlanders are pretty bad...)

7. Yelling...

Rebuttal: They are expressing themselves VERY clearly. I'd bet if you were reading your "article" out loud, you would yell too, as I would be if I were reading MY reply out loud (Because of my obvious outrage at your close-mindedness and stupidity).
I was in France and Switzerland (The place where fancy pants waiters and busboys are around every damn corner waiting to "Freshen ze ice vateur!" and people THERE yell a lot too!!! Does that make THEM backward, or horrible? NO.

8. Food...

Rebuttal: No matter where you go in the WORLD, if you decide to go somewhere cheap, don't expect 4-star service. Guess what, if someone was accustomed to eating in 4-star restaurants all the time came over one day to a KFC, and based their opinion on the society, the country and the entire populous of the country on it (as you clearly have), THEY WOULD BE DISGUSTED! Guess what buddy, go over to any decent restaurant, and you will find good service, good cleanliness and very, very good food. So, are you NOT an idiot? NO. (I had to end it with 'NO.', so I stated the obvious...)

9. Bad architecture...

Rebuttal: This is your opinion of something that is basically the same as art. I hate Picasso, but someone somewhere DID, THAT'S WHY EVERYONE KNOWS PICASSO! Just because you don't like the architecture, doesn't mean it's bad, you never know, it might be a very efficient and practical design (I'm no architect, so I won't use my opinion as fact, as you did.) So, does one guy's opinion make a necessary reflection on an entire nation's people and society? NO.

10. Old men... With young women...?

Rebuttal: I've never seen this before in China... Perhaps you've been hanging in the wrong districts... And, how dirty can the old men be if they can afford, such, as you so eloquently put it, "Hot young things"?

There has also been a lot of talk about Taiwan. Well, I have no problem with Taiwan except for the following: China offered the ROC (Republic of China... Taiwan...) a deal whereby Taiwan could be a democratic country that did not follow China's communist party one bit. The only condition was that Taiwan would leave its name and go under the flag of the People's Republic of China. They refused under the pretense of, "Fear of betrayal, as the Communist Party of China is so well known for". Well, when presented the fact that Macau and Hong Kong were both under that deal, they said, "We are not the same as Hong Kong and Macau". As a person with roots in Hong Kong, I take offense to this, merely because they are uncooperative and think themselves better than me, and my people. The people of Taiwan have worked alongside China for the past 5000 years, and now, because they feel that they deserve independence, they think they should get it. I hate the Taiwanese mindset, as do people in the PRC, H-K, and Macau. It is THAT mindset that is going to get them all killed. And their deaths will not be in vain, because that's what they deserve for thinking themselves better than everyone. I believe that the Taiwanese have strayed away from the flock, and it is up to the Chinese to chase them back in, or to kill them...

Anyhow, to whoever wrote the original blog, you are a closed minded fool who should REALLY experience the 5000 years of Chinese culture fully, before he/her forms all these conclusions and stereotypical views.

With Socialist Greetings,

Zhuang Junhao.

Everyone, stop posting on this rediculous continuous thread. It's fruitless to continue this conversation. Shut up-you!

--FERTIG--

oi...do you know that French flats have 250 people living per square mile and chinese flats have 6000. Enyet the crime rate in one hong kong flat comparable to a French one is way less.

And yes HK is part of China. It's not a Englands little brother anymore.

Just stating the facts.
Don't believe me.

watch imagination on BBC news around 1 month back. If you can get your hands on one :X
This is in response against point 4,7 and 10.
If the author is still reading this Fruitless tread.

Thanx Mr.body.
Peace out.

"Get rich or die trying" - 50 cent (rap makes sense in this instance)

Visiting China these days is not ideal for everyone. Maybe try visiting as a tourist, stay for five days and then leave just as you came because your world is more than likely far too comfortable to enjoy "real" China living. I would invite you to go as a tourist, as you will find your stay quite "cushy".

Living in China is hard work. A lot of the food is not as "healthy" because, unlike North American countries., China has not established an effective method of enforcing any sort of standard Health code. Some may enjoy the food, as I have for many years. And there are many good restaurants in Shanghai (it's where half of my family lives).

I have found any major city in China will more polluted than Westerners will find to be acceptable. You don't like it? Then don't come here. The same goes for any other complaints.

I do, of course, highly agree with all of your statements. They are fairly accurate generalizations.

I hope that you can find peace wherever you go, whether in China or elsewhere.

A WARNING TO THE WHOLE WORLD OF WESTENERS esp European:

1. You all lots are lack of manners and very rude when you see someone has black hair then you will ask 'You are from China?' This is extremely annoying. Imagine if Asian see you guys with bloody gold hair and the first things we ask is 'Are you from US?'

2. Especially to Scandianvian people. All of you fools are naive and stupid. You all lots are pigs, just know how to rely on your systems to work and don't think. You all are ridiculous. Even the immigration department has no common sense about people with black hair are from different Asian countries, NOT JUST CHINA!
If you guys who have bloody gold hair have doubts in seperating Chinese, Hong Konger, Taiwanese, Japanese, Thai, read more books, you fool, but don't just judge by yourself. Don't mess up Hong Kongers, Chinese and Taiwanese, especially. They are very different, they have different backgrounds and culture.

3. Don't think everyone with black hair are from China. BE RESPECTFUL!!!

Have read the common of Apple, although she was a bit emotional, but totally understand why she was so angry.

I am asked 8 times out of 10 times by western people if I am from China. This is offensive. I hate to explain every time, and even hate to be treated as them. It is a really bad manners for westeners to guess where I am from all the time.

And true, European especially, just treated all people with black hair as Chinese. My wife is from Hong Kong, so I know China and Hong Kong are very different place. Hong Kong people don't like to be treated as mainland Chinese. It was very embarrassing for Hong Kong people, they are no doubt Chinese, but they don't want to be treated as those generally rude Chinese as in the mainland. Hong Kong people are generally educated, follow rules, well mannered and polite. They love to come to Japan for shopping for the latest fashion and products. They are very welcome by most Japanese people.

People from Europe should have more understanding between these two, or even three groups (with Taiwanese) of people.

Jap

right, i agree that westerners should learn how to tell real Chinese Han people from hong kongnese and taiwanese. hong kongnese are cantonese. taiwanese are aboriginals of polynesia (except for those fled to taiwan with KMT from mainland by the end of the civil war). they are not typical chinese but south asian islander really, thus they had darker skin. we are very different race. please differentiate between us!

after reading the posting here, i just feel that ppl are very mean to our chinese ppl. if you wanna be mean, we can be meaner.
whether u like us or not, we are gonna trump. china is as big as usa. china is making progress. we are smart! so we just need more time. our size of economy gonna surpass japan and america in 50-100 years. ask yrself, in the past 5000 years, how many years are chinese ahead of the world and how many years is the rest of world ahead of china.
we fall backward just in the most recent 200 years. i am very confident in china. after we turn our 90% bucolic peasant population that is not functioning in our society into skilled labors, nurses and even engineers, our country will be once again ahead of yr rapidly aging, collapsing empire.

hey, if you guys hate china and her people so much, my advice: leave her alone and stay out. thanks.

Apple and Jap, you have my sympathy. But hey, what can you do about it? Huh?

lol i LOVE YOUR ARTICLE I HATE CHINA you shou;d get into the government part because the government shouldn't censor the internet

I agree with most well-made arguments from both sides, but not the offensive comments. If you leave this site after reading it and learn nothing, learn this: Either live with it if you have to, leave it if you don't want to have anything to do with it, but the fact remains that it is inevitable China will become a superpower, if not one already.

Whether good experience or not, it is well worth visiting China for an experience of a life time. If you do come, it is recommended that you know where you are heading, ie. do some research! Avoid rural areas if you are not all sure about your trip.

This is a pointless argument...here are the answers:
1.china is already a superpower.
2.there is no pint to criticise the chinese people: they are still a developing country. We westerners were once the same, besides the chinese have been a superpower a lot more times than us.

The world is going to end soon. WW3 2006-2012 - notradamous prophecy. We are going to die...all of us...whether fuking chinese or what not.

Events:
-Iran will go ahead with it's nuclear program
-Israel will launch an airstike
-Russia will protect Irans nuclear facilities as agreed and launch a backlash against Israel
-The US will intervene
-UK and Europe will intervene on behalf of US
-WW3
THE END

holy shit batman life in china seems to all thats advertised here in america. good on you for speaking out. you're right the future of our planet is very uncertain i'll be 52 next march and i guess i'm lucky to have made it this far. i hope to straighten up soon and see if i can last a little longer. keep up the good work bro and keep me posted @raymondbresnan@comcast.net ray bresnan seattle wa.

China is overpopulated to such a dangerous degree that it is threatening the entire world. They have billions upon billions of people living in a primitive communist country. The sad thing is that China is still able to populate, instead of having a one child policy, they should be forced to have a no-child policy. The United states should take all means neccessary to ensure that this happens. We should use the strictest sanction methods, to exert extreme preasure on China so that the world will never have to hear of the birth of Ching Chang.

hey 'get a life', thanks for your sympathy. it is because there's nothing we can control westerners mouth of asking us 'Are you from China' and I think that's what make me upset.

And my wife from Hong Kong is also upseted that every time she told people she is from Hong Kong, she is being asked 'How's HK after the took over', imagine, all these years after 1997, how many times she has been asked? I will say maybe more than 1000 times as she works for a big US company and she deals with suppliers from all over the world, and she feel even more offensive when people said 'Hong Kong is China, it's the same, you people eat everything with 4 legs'!

You see, Hong Kong people are very much influenced by the western education for so long, they cannot accept mainland Chinese eat 'unusual' animals as well, however, most westerners made Hong Kong people and mainland Chinese belong to the same big group. This is totally wrong. They just generalized people from Hong Kong and mainland China as Chinese, and even say they are the same!!!

This is extremely unfair to Hong Kong people. They are just technically being grouped as Chinese because of the stupid took over, but Hong Konger have very different society, government, holidays, values, education, language, culture and they even look, behave and dress differently.

I think for those westerners, especially european who think all black hair people are Chinese from China are very naive. Plus, if they wish to know more about the took over, go search the net and read more books. Don't ask all the time when you bump into someone from Hong Kong. Also be respectful! if you think all Hong Kong people are the same as mainland Chinese, not only you are showing a lot of people that you are not educated, also you are showing people that you are just an ultimate idiot who can have no medicines to heal, in a way, hopeless!

Jap

Maybe I should also tell everyone who browse this link the difference of Hong Kong people and mainland Chinese as well according to my observation as a Japanese. And it is important to know, too. Because, me and my wife heard a lot of mainland Chinese overseas lied to westerners that they are from Hong Kong. That's an insult to Hong Kong people, these Chinese use the name of Hong Kong people but do not behave like them.

1. Hong Kong people looks more educated and stylish.

2. Hong Kong people are tidy and clean, and do not have bad smell coming from their mouth body.

3. Hong Kong people don't jump queue or push you in a crowd.

4. Hong Kong people will not do anything digusting such as spitting on the street.

5. Hong Kong people are reasonable.

6. When Hong Kong people go to other countries, they will respect other's culture but not like mainland Chinese who think they are rich and then can do whatever they like with no respect of other countries.

7. Hong Kong people don't smoke like the mainland Chinese

8. Hong Kong people will never squat down to rest like the mainland Chinese

9. Hong Kong people don't talk like shouting to each other.

10. When a mainland Chinese see a black haired Asian's partner is a westerner or from other countries, they will return with curious look at the couple with unfriendly judgement or even whispered with each other rudely (I have experienced a lot when I was with my wife in China), but for Hong Kong people, they will never do that, it is just too common, they accept and respect other people.

11. Hong Kong people usually can speak good or at least a little English, but for mainland Chinese, they usually cannot.

12. Hong Kong people will not say how good China is today. For those who blad about how good China is are usually from mainland China. Also, for those who talk so loud about Taiwan and Hong Kong are part of China are usually mainland Chinese

13. Hong Kong people are not big liers like mainland Chinese. They are trust worthy in business.

14. For those who talk so loud about how bad Japan is, don't regret about the 2nd world war are usually mainland Chinese. You see, the movie Geisha, those mainland Chinese said they cannot accept Zhang Chi Yee played a Japanese Geisha, saying that's an insult of China. Can't they treat it as a movie only and without politics?

Jap

LOL Jap
Obviously biased opinions, but I do know what you mean. It's not a good idea to stereotype the people to an extend that makes you sound like a racist. I'm pretty sure you have come across a tiny little fraction of Chinese, probably while travelling, but not enough to say all Chinese are like this. There are a whole bunch of people from mainland with better and better education. Things will change; it's just a matter of time.

If I were to generalise people like you do and put my oberservations about the Hong Kong people all in one word, the word would be simply "FAKE". But I do respect that culture and appreciate why this is, and this is how I have come to making quite a good handful of good Hong Kong friends.

Instead of firing these "facts" at readers, why not try to come up with theories of why they do what they do?

With regard to the "popular" Chinese stance over the Japanese issues. It is not in our blood to hate the Japanese. I personally don't have a problem with them. It is the Communist government which are supposedly constantly creating tensions between the two nation - they supposedly sponsor protests in Shanghai against the Japanese government.

A significant amount of people in an authoritarian state such as China are likely to have been "brain washed" as they say.

Just think about it.

It's just politics, don't take it personally.

MY god chinese, hong kong japanese ur all the same to the outside world...please understand that....ur all asians.
So stop bickering like Europeans do and for god sakes unite u ass holes.

Well, Jiaxin from Shenzhen,

Just because you are from China, that's why you said such stupid things.

Yes, we should not generalised, but I tend to agree with what Jap said.

At least, Hong Kong people are not as selfish as most mainland Chinese.

We don't need to argue with theories here, it is just god damn too true that mainland Chinese gave that world bad impression, such as illegal immigrants, fake food (See, China produce fake food and export to the world, FAKE is the word for Mainland Chinese, not Hong Kong people), fake movies, fake books, fake products. What do you expect people of the world to think about China?

And for that stupid unknown person posted on January 26, 2006 11:30 PM, saying all asian are the same to the world?

Well, I feel extremely sorry to you, you are a true idiot! Go back to school! You are missing th point of discussion here.

Just a matter of time for Chinese to get improve? Well, I doubt that!

Amy

I agree with Amy and Jap. Just like Tibet, they are no doubt, being forced to become part of China, but they are all different people with different culture. And of course, Tibetian looks different from Chinese from China. And for those who think all Asian are the same, that's very stupid. Then what about all people with gold hair are the same then? All African are with black skin? Then what about those westerner in South American? People who think like this do not respect others.

And Jiaxin from Shenzhen, you disagree with all these comments because you are also from the mainland. Of course, you don't want to be insulted here, right?

Bert

I think Jiaxin is just like what Jap said about a typical mainland Chinese. He talk about how great China is, hahaha...

And I can see him constantly coming to this site, so, he has nothing to do??? He has so much time huh???

I hate the attitude of Taiwanese. They are so proud to be Taiwanese, they think Taiwan is a country, but their land still part of China.

That Jiaxin is mean. He said he made friends with Hong Kong people, then he said they are FAKE. I think the real FAKE person is him, who will talk bad things about one's own friends. Jiaxin you sucks.

I am an American. I lived in Hong Kong for 5 years, and China for another 5. I think Jap's description of Hong Kong people is quite true though.

Looser Jiaxin!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

For those who think all Asian are the same are really sick.

I think people from mainland China themselves cannot see their own problems. That's why they usually disagree other said how bad they are.

I LOVE chinese food. But I haven't been anywhere near china (closest being singapore). I'm a Canadian of east-indian decent. (yea, i can make up a top 10 list of a similar nature for india too! lol) but the bottom line is that we all have our problems... but that's what makes us human. Be proud of your heritage!

reading their postings here, i really think hong kong poeple are very DISGUSTING!
they claim they are different from chinese. but what i wanna tell you is that they are worse than chinese. they are all CANTONESE. and cantonese really sucks. very dirty, stupid, loud, and SNOBBISH, as you can see from their postings. of those wierd people living in china town, 90% of them are cantonese. their life style is like those in some fishing village. the whole street stinks. if you know history, you will know that 100 years ago hong kong is just a fishing village like that.
they prosper in the 80s because foreign country can only do business with china through hong kong because china closed its door to outside at that time. now they claim that they are another type different than chinese. it is just ridiculous.
if a japanese boasts to me that they made a lot of achievement, i will kindly agree. for hong kong people, you had better shut up your big mouth. whatever achievement you have ever made if any is due to the british people, their rule and technology. even today, hong kong does not have any high end manufacturing industry. i think the onky thing your guys can do is to make soma ding sum...haha...and eat some wierd cat and then all get SARS...fAKing stupid hong kong ese...you suck!

Are you sure that there is also the fact that they stretch their word like Mehoulaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaa
and the population man it's like over do
they should trade land with Russia.
oh the drivers are not the best and as a secret mabye suck

That person, named Mr. Cutting at January 29, 2006 12:19 PM. I think he is very bias. And actually, via my reading, there's no Hong Kong people here talking about how good themselves are, those opinions about Hong Kong people were posted by a Japanese person, named Jap.
Mr. Cutting, do you know what are you talking about here? To me, you don't even read properly here, so please don't confuse other readers.
If you hate people from Hong Kong, it is because you are very narrow minded and feeling insecure about yourself. You should be the one who go shut up.

The China town in Australia now live many mainland Chinese people. And I think it is getting more dirty now than before. It used to have many Hong Kong people there, it was better before.

I think Taiwanese people are wired, they think they have a country, but they are not. They call Taiwan a country, but indeed not. They are just being used by the US.

As a Canadian born Chinese, I do not agree with Liao Yusheng totally. I will say half correct. However, I think the person (he is called Mr. Cutting something, cannot really remember) who said Hong Kong people eat dogs and cats is not correct.
I run business with China and Hong Kong, wired food can only be found in mainland China. China people used to make me a soup called 'Dragon, Tiger, phoenix & turtle', and it was made with snake, cat, chicken and turtle. How disgusting.
On the other hand, Hong Kong serve excellent food.
His comments are very mean, and he obviously know nothing about Hong Kong.
He shows himself a real idiot full of jealousy here by saying things like that.

The most wired group of people on Earth is not Chinese, but Swedish! They are the only people who think they live in a paradise, they have many wired culture.

well, well, well, so many arguments here!

The world should be peaceful, we are all the same in this world.

We are from the same God, and God love us all.

Our ancestors are all from Africa actually.

The article is so bias.

Every country has its weakness and strength.

There is no definite right and wrong in the world. Too many grey areas.

I really want to laugh when I read the last few comments posted. I am not from China, not from Taiwan, not from Hong Kong, not from Japan. I am citizen of the world, and I disagree with Mr. Cutting saying Cantonese people are Hong Kong people. Cantonese people include people from Guangzhow. Cantonese is a dialects.
In addition, his comments do not have a point at all. True, he shows himself really uneducated and stupid.

The world without China and Taiwan will be a much more better place.

Oh, well, actually don't want to say anything, but I can see the people who post messages here to support mainland China, always use lots of swear words.
So, if you people from mainland China are so great, why use so many rude languages? Look at that Chang, Mr. Cutting who post messages here. They don't even know what is right and wrong!
Too brain washed already! What's a shame.
Liao Yusheng himself is a Chinese, and he also make bad comments about China.